December 01, 2010
Greg Szymanski
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11/01'07 Greg's Biography
@5min) Greg citing Hitler:
And:I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits. Until now there has never been anything more grandiose on the earth than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party.
Now, why haven't Americans ever heard this before? Why? Because, you know, they may start thinking: well, maybe they're doing the same thing here with Homeland Security. Maybe they're doing the same thing behind the scenes, patterning this new fascist government that's taking over in America – I might add – in a very very deceptive manner while they keep people thinking that everything seems normal.The SS organization has been constituted by Himmler according to the principles of the Jesuit Order. Their regulations and the spiritual exercises prescribed by Ignatius of Loyola were the model Himmler tried to copy exactly. Himmler's title as supreme chief of the SS was to be the equivalent to the Jesuit General and the whole structure and direction was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's hierarchical order.
@8min) Greg citing von Papen:
Quoted by Edmund Paris in his final 1975 work, The Secret History of the JesuitsThe Third Reich is the first world power which not only acknowledges but also puts into practice the high principles of the papacy.
If you are not aware of what a concordat is, a concordat is an agreement between the Vatican and a government. As far as the Vatican is concerned, that government that signed the concordat has now become a part of the government of God, and the Vatican fully intends to stabilize that government, give it divine protection, and give it international protection.
Now, that's exactly what the patriots back in the 1850s decided they wanted no part of, because up until that time, there was an concordat between the U.S. and the Vatican. Well, after it was proven that the Jesuits and the Catholic Church was instrumental in fomenting the Civil War, which is another thing that's been kept out of the history books, and also was instrumental in killing and putting the hit team together to kill Abraham Lincoln, patriots () then together and they ended any kind of diplomatic relationships with the Vatican. However, as time went on, the Vatican and the Jesuit Order wanted to get their revenge, they used their influence even stronger now than was back then to get right back in bed with our politicians. So as time went on and we saw the Federal Reserve did pass, the legal Income Tax. And then as we looked at Kennedy getting killed and then Ronald Reagan coming into power, guess what he does in, I believe, 1984? He re-institutes quietly these diplomatic relations with the Vatican again.
French writer Frédéric Hoffet in 1948 wrote:
Not only does the U.S government appear to be on an uncontrolled killing spree with the blessings of the Vatican, these following words did not come from a speaker in the middle ages but from a 20th century Vatican official, Cardinal Alexis Lépicier, known as a notorious Jesuit follower and New World Order advocate:Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler and most of the members of the party's old guard were Catholics. It was not by accident that because of its chief's religion, the Nationalist-Socialist government was the most Catholic Germany ever had [...] This kinship between socialism and Catholicism is most striking if we study closely the propaganda methods and the interior organization of the party. [...]
On that subject, nothing is more instructive than Joseph Goebbel's works. He had been brought up in a Jesuit college and was a seminarist before devoting himself to literature and politics [...] Every page, every line of his writings recall the teaching of his masters. So he stresses obedience [...] the contempt for truth. [...] "Some lies are as useful as bread," Goebbel's once proclaimed, taking his words from extracts of Ignatius of Loyola's writings.
And what these words amount to is a justification by the papacy to kill anyone who does not follow the Pope's supposed holy rule. But what it really means is anyone who stands up against Satanism and the New World Order should be killed and has the Pope's hidden blessing.If someone professes publicly to be a heretic or tries to pervert others, by his speech or example, he can not only be excommunicated but also justly killed.
Eric Jon Phelps:
@43min, Greg) I had a friend who was the correspondent for Time Magazine – I used to work with him years ago in Oakland County, Michigan – and he became the correspondent for the Pentagon for fifteen years. And we've talked a couple of times and I love this guy – he is a friend of mine way back. And he told me point blank: "I'm a whore. I can't tell the truth. I can't tell you really what's going on at the Pentagon."This is their final crusade and they will use the might of the U.S. military to destroy the Muslims while then our army will be sacrificed like Hitler's as we will then be invaded by the Chinese-Soviet front. [...]
You must understand their final goal is to destroy Christianity, the Muslims and the Jews, making way for a one world government and one world religion with total loyalty top the Pope who will again reside in Jerusalem.
@94min, Anthony Hilder) He [Bush II] doesn't have the capacity to articulate an idea. He doesn't think for himself. You know, he is initiated born-again into the Brotherhood of Death, into this evilarchy. He is a portion of the evilarchy. And we have to take a look at it as an evilarchy.
@98min) "Hollywood is the Cancer on the Hemorrhoid of the Ass of the Whore of America."
09/25'07 Eric Jon Phelps) The Art of War
09/19'07 Grizogono's letter to Archbishop Stepinac on Feb 8, 1942, then Phil Jayhan playing Alex
@36min, Holly) Now, I also want to say, from the very beginning here, that I am so 100 percent in support of Greg's message, because I came to this information in like 1978-80. I went through an extreme experience in my own Pentecostalist experience. I came to Pentecostalism ... and I want to tell you guys the truth: tonight I'm cracking open my brain and you guys can take a little look at my journey to my poetry. And I'm gonna share my experience with you because all we have to go by is each other's experiences. Your experiences can help me understand the path, my experiences can help you understand the path. I'm not saying, what my experiences are that is valid or truth or any one else, I'm just saying, this is what happened to me. Because of an LSD trip I had an experience with Jesus and I became a Christian. I pursued Christianity very sincerely and I became water-baptized: I was dumped in a bathtub by a bunch of born-again Christian Jesus-freak types in the 70s. [...] And I began to speak in an unknown language, and I have been able to speak in this language ever since, whenever I want to. I had amazing experiences in the subways of New York where I silenced and calmed people who were ranting and raving, and protected people who were sitting around me, and they were amazed, and it worked all the time. [...] I don't need to own a gun, I'm save every way I go, because I have the holy spirit in my life, and it's true, and it worked. I took a journey to Christianity and found out that it's all based upon a mythology. And the real kick in for Jesus are the teachings of a great Cabalist avatar, who was a god/real-life being who most certainly did exist 2,000 years ago, because some of that message still leaks through us, especially in the gospel according to John [...]
There is no mythology in the John gospel. There is real deep spirituality, mysticism, almost Cabalistic. And the Cabalists all knew that Hebrew is a magical language and the entire Old Testament is some kind of a weird puzzle, word-messed puzzle. It's magical it's got depths upon depths upon depths, I fell in love with it when I read it and I will always be in love with it. [...] Anything unlocks the secret of our power as human beings can be used for evil or for good. It's the same thing that these secret societies keep secret from us [...] – that's all it is, it's what the quantum physicists are figuring out, that we create physical reality with our thoughts. And these secret societies have kept this information secret from the people, from the masses, because they know if they brainwash us they can turn us into their servants and have the high light.
I believe in the kind of Communism that's in the Bible. In the book of Exodus, when they were in the wilderness, God told Moses I am raining manna down and I want you to instruct the people to collect it according to their ability and then redistribute it to everyone according to their need. Then later in the New Testament Paul quotes that and says: now, when you come into the church you will () everything you own, everything will be distributed equally, so no-one will be lacking, and then he quotes Exodus to back himself up. Then later in the book of Acts there is a story where this couple lie about money that they are holding aside, that they didn't give up to the collective, and they die in the spot. The holy spirit kills them on the spot. Now, whether or not the holy spirit was Joe somebody – I don't necessarily agree with that interpretation of what happened – or if it happened at all, it doesn't matter. Even if it's a myth! It is saying, if you don't share you deserve to dropped dead. That's what my belief system is based upon is some of the really truly beautiful, mystical information that comes through the Bible regardless of how many men have () with it.
"We will all be Distributists in the end, some may not like it, but it is going to happen."
Cojo) Exactly this could happen, Chris.
In the New World Society of Jesus, the collective of a hive-minded species.
@48min, Holly) The secret in the mysticism in the Jewish religion is that women already have the truth and men have to share it in their verbal way, 'cause women are magical and have it in the non-verbal way. That's why the woman likes the candle, and Happy New Year by the way.
I am so in love with that religion, let me tell you. I think – oh, this is really gonna get me popular – the Jewish religion is the religion that has preserved goddess worship. The Shekhinah is the female, or the (), or the receptive, or the loving, or the comforting aspect of God. The Shekhinah is the female aspect of God – sorry folks – it's the Goddess, it's the true Goddess. It's the Goddess of Love that you feel filling your heart when you're feeling that incredible love from God – that's the Shekhinah. [...] And if anybody wants to get the book The Golden Bow (1890) by James Frazier ("said that all world religions were stages in evolutionary progress, including Christianity"), it goes into every freaking religion on this planet and the human sacrifice they practiced and how it was all symbolized by the tree and the sun. And sun god worship is about human sacrifice and these () at Bohemian Grove and Skull and Bones are doing human sacrifices. There's no doubt about it, because they are sun god worshippers – that's what they do. The whole black demoniac thing about the communion – that is great information. Eating the host is a whole ugly, horrible cannibalism ritual. Cannibal means Cana (the first public miracle of Jesus), priest, of Baal – Cannibal. [...] the good guy and the bad guy [...] divide and conquer, but that's how they work hmm ... duh! [...] The goddess Guan Yin by the way pours out the water into the mouth of the dragon, and her message is that she achieved enlightenment that did not want to offend until every soul had achieved enlightenment. She is my god. That's what I believe. That's what I hope for. [...]
I'm leaving Christianity (poem)
Some of you have actually said [...] that the elect will watch while ninety percent of the creation is tormented for eternity, that smoke will rise to our nostrils [...] an acceptable sacrifice. Others have told me that God in his infinite mercy will () to forget those loved ones who have never recited our initiation [...] Therefore we will be spared the consciousness of their eternal [...] I refuse to forget anyone I've ever loved, and I've loved everyone I've ever met! So I quit your club. I'll run to that hell you created and I will cool the brow and hold the hand of those who thought that God really meant it when he gave us free will. [...] I love the monsters and the mists, the devils and the rebels and even you, you who have created a Jesus who doesn't love enough. And asked for your heaven: either everyone gets in, or I ain't going.
Judy) Holly, you are a powerful poet.
@62min, Holly) "Hillary's new pearl choker necklace" – that's the one I'm gonna tell you about but I'll finish the poem. [...] I got it through my own instincts. I'm one of those people that the Spanish Inquisition was trying to destroy: people with instincts: women. Through my own instincts and my own studies years ago when I read Mystery Babylon [...] great books [...] Avro Manhattan [...] the Pope fulfilling the prophecy in Daniel [...] I mean, I was on to all that stuff back then. The thing with the pearl choker necklace is, it is a symbol of having been initiated as a priestess in the Illuminati.
The pearls: if you look at that old picture of Venus on the seashell with a pearl laid over her, airborne ... I saw that painting and it hit me: what does the pearl represent? It represents that women are like the ocean, we are very ... we smell like the ocean, we change our moods like the ocean, we are associated with the ocean. Mare – Mary. The ancient temple prostitutes, the hierodules, the priestesses that did the healing work in the temples – they were called Mary.
Judy) Like la mer in francais (mare, sea, ocean). (la mère – mother, Mary – marry)
Holly) The pearls are the symbol of that aspect of the goddess, were that concept of the goddess as the temple prostitute. Now, in the more ancient religions of goddess worship, going way back, way back, way back to probably the days when we were hanging out in the open planes eating mushrooms out of cowpiles, if you know what I'm talking about ... And goddess was worship going on because they didn't really understand what the phallus had to do with reproduction and women were just magical to them. [...] During that time, whatever healing work might have been done by a woman, it was then for free, and it was open, and it was with love. It was free love like what happened for a very brief time 1965-75 – free ride, right? So that was the real healing art, but when it's turned into prostitution where a man is making a pet, then it's the dark side, it's the whore, it's the great prostitute. Not only does the church sell indulgences or sell you salvation, but there were women in the temple that would sell you so-called sexual healing and get payment for it for the men in the temple. And that was going on in Jesus' time, when they were called hetaeras. [...]
I don't think Jesus had sex because he didn't need to be healed. He was a god/real-life being, he didn't need to find his other half. He didn't need to be filled with whatever connection you get when you connect soul to soul with another human being, which is the most spiritual act we are capable of: that soul to soul contact between two peoples' solar plexus. There is no greater, more godly thing you can do on this planet but make love to another human being, because that's the only time that two souls really touch and you recreate unity of God that way. Oh, this is gonna make me so popular, but anyway. [...]
You know that in the gospel of Timothy II, I think, it says, later will come a doctrine of demon preaching the celibacy of the priesthood. It's a doctrine of demon, no wonder the invention of the printing press and people reading the Bible is was caused the Protestant revolution against privilege, because it's the doctrine of demon, celibacy. [...] But regardless how the act is done, where, when, or how, it still has some kind of spiritual connection. That's why the Bible says: don't connect yourself to whores, you become one with another person when you have sex with them.
Judy) People read what they want to see in the Bible.
Holly) The whole pearl thing is a symbol of the whore!
That aspect of the sexual healer who is actually a whore. So, in this Illuminati system ... if you have ever seen this movie Eyes Wide Shut, it shows one of their parties, their ritual, and they have these women who are high initiates, who are high priestesses. So she has achieved a level where she wears the pearl choker necklace, she had drunk baby blood – I am certain of that. And so is Barbara Bush. And Barbara Bush always wears that pearl choker necklace. And the day I saw Hillary () wear one I (): 'Ah, they initiated her.' I'd like you to know who confirmed that for me was Leo Zagami. And I contacted him personally and had my own personal conversations with him, and my website was crashed, thus he really is who he says he is. The thing is, if I don't think that anybody can leave the Illuminati anymore than anybody can leave the CIA, so whether he was a double agent or somebody who was trying to leave – I'm not sure. But a lot of this information was still really cracked but it resonated with me. Now, Condi, by the way, Condoleezza Rice is wearing a pearl choker necklace, so watch for that! This is where you watch for their little hand signals and that stuff that these guys do. The women with the pearl choker necklace – God only knows what they had to do to get to that medal.
Judy) One of the reasons why we are on this planet is to learn discernment. So every thing that you hear from a person is not going to necessarily be the truth. We're all struggeling, we're all trying to piece things together. But if you can get a shred of the truth from a person, you know, it ultimately, it becomes ... the burden falls on us, not on somebody who is gonna sit there and tell you exactly what's happening.
Holly) You know what? I don't think there is any "exactly what's happening" ...
Karen Fish:
09/06'07 Tony Alamo @65min) "The Lord Jesus uses teaching of the Bible to separate the Soul life, or our former life, from the Spirit, from my spirit life, so that we can worship the Lord and the Spirit. And you can read the Bible over and you'll see that anyone who () did exactly what the Lord said to do – none of them failed. They never failed. God protects them all the way."Lets get to know a little about our modern day Aphrodite aka Venus, the Goddess of Love, Beauty and Sex worshipped by the Greek and Roman people four thousand years ago. [...] The Greek Goddess Aphrodite Festival is called the Aphrodisiac, which was celebrated all over Greece especially in Athens and Corinth. [...] Jesus Christ was a Jewish Rabbi painted by the Greek New Testament writers with the godlike qualities of the Greek Goddess Eurynome and Bellerophon and his flying horse Pegasus and several other Greek deities. You can read all about it at the Temple of Love. 20 million Christian and Jewish children lost their lives in WW II aka the War Against the Jews, because according to stories which god of Mount Sinai aka Jesus aka Allah aka Elohim Himself endlessly calls man made legends and fairy tales right in the holy bibles, the Jewish people killed this half real half fictitious character 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem. Humans have a problem separating fact from fiction. At least Paris Hilton is a real person. I've seen her. I've touched her. I've kissed her. Her lips are as candy. Her legs are as ladders. [...] Paris Whitney Hilton was named after Whitney Houston because her name wasn't famous enough. During the Aphrodite Festival, the Aphrodisiac, in Corinth Greece, the men had intercourse with the Priestesses of Aphrodite. This was considered a method of worshipping Aphrodite. What did you get for Christmas? In the holy temple in Jerusalem the priests lured the people in with the temple prostitutes who lived in the temple. King Solomon who built the holy temple had 900 wives, concubines and mistresses. [...] Aphrodite was born as an 18 year old Paris Hilton in the sea off of Cyprus after Cronus cut off Uranus' genitals and the elder god's blood and semen dropped on the sea where they began to foam. Aphrodite rose out of the foam in her 18 year old birthday suit. When did people become so prudish? Going wild over one night in Paris? 4,000 years ago mating with hookers in the temple was normal. In 1879, William-Adolphe Bouguereau painted the Birth of Venus, (Venus was Aphrodite's Roman name), which showed the full face on nude 18 year old Aphrodite being born rising from the sea foam. How did Hugh Hefner get to be called risqué? And where did all the paintings and likenesses of Jesus come from? There isn't one single word of description of Jesus in the Holy Bible or anywhere else.
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11/25'09 @31min, John Daniel)
The Roman Catholic Church and the Jesuits – they have a central authority and everyone from that top of command obeys. That's the answer to how they can work out their program for hundreds of years and even longer and how they come to pass almost like clock work. Protestants don't have that type of organization and they never will. They only think that they have to taken () to is the sovereign god of the universe that we look forward to, and that's our captain. You see? The Roman Catholic Church's captain is the Pope and the Jesuits that are working and everyone must obey. And so they can work out their program here on planet earth, and that's what they do. And their program has always been the same thing. And I'm not just talking ... and this is what people fail to understand, what "The Word of God", "The Scriptures", itself teaches: This thing didn't just start with the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church is just the tail end of the system! My point that I want to stress to answer your question, Greg, is that their agenda has always been to rule the whole world. Everyone of these civilizations that we know about in history, whether it was over in the Old World or in the New World, it was the same system. What is that system? Well, you see it on the back of the one dollar bill which is the American Great Seal – that's the pyramid, the all-seeing eye. What does that represent? It represents sun worship. Sun worship is Lucifer worship. And everyone of these civilizations came under that banner, under that umbrella, whether it was Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece or Rome. That's the Old World. You come over to the New World. Well, you got the Aztecs, you got the Inkas, you got the Mayas, you got the Sioux – they all worship the sun. Hey, we got incredible pyramids situated next down here in Mexico ... the Mayan sun pyramid, yes, yes. So, this whole system is nothing new and hasn't been new. [...] Today we got technology ... And so what they have always desired, has been their goal, is to rule the whole world and they did the then known world – they ruled it to the best of their ability, but today they got the technology and that's what they are ready to do. You see? That's the whole program, that's why they can think constantly. Consistently! They never miss a heartbeat. And so we're talking about a couple of hundred years, no problem, it's always the same: to rule, to rule, to rule the whole world. That's what everyone who belongs to that organization at the top of that hierarchy – it's the only thing that they knew, they are like in lock step. And I assure you, they will accomplish that because "The Word of God" says that they will accomplish it. Not because John Daniel says it, "The Word of God" tells you that they are going to accomplish it. And they will prevail. In other words, as far as true Christianity, "The Word of God" is telling you [...] Only the very very small few will rise up to protest and many of them, many of them will lose their lifes in the process. But that's what Rome is always been about and is never gonna change. There is only one thing ... and we come down to the bottom line, and this is where I come from, and there is not too many who are regular show host or guest that come out that will tell you what is the bottom line. And you'll never hear anybody talk about the second coming of "Our Lord Jesus Christ", all the () talk about is the first coming: 'oh yeah, he came as a little babe,' you know, 'he was powerless, he got killed. I mean, did he really accomplish his purpose, how could they killed him?!'
11/17'09, @28min, Greg)
This strikes me throughout my course of secular education: [...] it's those who grab on the knowledge, hide it, use it, spew it out, control it in a sense that misuse it, and that's Jesuitist to met its best. And I want to be very clear and I think it should be said more often and professed by people who are presenting historical facts that have been hidden – research that at times can be conflicting. It isn't the quest of me on this show to control anything, to move anybody in any direction. It isn't my quest to basically be one of those hoarders of knowledge, one of those – oh, I call it like a legal professor who is gonna get you to, you know ... or a lawyer, who is gonna make you pay 300 dollars an hour for his precious knowledge and how that little fraternity has become so corrupted – it's not my goal here. I know there's other researchers who feel the same way and I think we should be loud and clear in that, and that it's your information to take for what you hear and then to go with it. And whether there is conflicting information – so be it! And whether what we say here doesn't pay out to be the full truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth – so be it! But at least it opens up our minds. And at least it involves and opened discussion, without anybody being the head of the class, without anybody professing to no more that anyone else. And with all of us using the little titbits of information and the little bit of brain that God gave us to share it, so that we may come to a conclusion, so that we may get to the real issues, facing us today in this crazy world that we live in. And it all boils down to listening, it all boils down to when you are reading to remember to listen to others, when you are talking to remember to listen to others, and when you are listening remember to act with patience, wisdom and forthrightness, with what you have learned in your life. And if there is any gaps in it, fill them up! There is people out there that will help you. But don't be so arrogant and brash to think that your message is the only one. And that's the real problem with people that you give them a little bit of knowledge, feed them a little bit and boy, they know it all. I do wanted to profess that because I don't come from that arena. All the days in my life I think I felt that way. I told ... many of you know my past and I can say that I was feeling that way some times: 'oh, I know all this and I'm gonna tell the world, and the hell with everybody else, the hell with their thoughts, this is the only way it could be it, I mean it can't be any other word because it came out of my mouth.' And I just want to say that I learned over the years that I was being foolish and I was a fool to ever think that ... but it happened. So in a sense let's get back to Tupper Saussy's book ...
11/03'09 Kevin Abrams) labor as liability, profit by defining terms, Kinsey – the Black Prophet
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@2min, Bill) I talk to a lot of people and sometimes they get discouraged and say: 'boy, you know, all these other crazy ideas are floating out there and they seem to get all the publicity', but I told them, what we are seeking to expose and letting the world know that Rome and the Jesuit Order in particular are truly the secret terrorists in this world, and the fact that they are going to be unmasked, Greg, it's happening and it's only going to get greater and stronger and stronger until all the world understands that the Antichrist power, the Roman Papacy, is the one truly behind what's going on and, of course, the Jesuit Order are the shock troops that are actually caring it out. So I'm excited, Greg, I'm encouraged and we are going forward.
@8min, Bill) If you look at it strictly from the Bible, letting the Bible interprete itself, Jesus was charged twice in the gospels with committing blasphemy. Once it was found in a story in Mark 2:1-7 where a man was very ill, was on a mat or a bed, and what his friends did was – because there were so many people in the house – they took him up on to the roof of the house, and they broke open the ceiling of the home, and let the man down through the roof right where Jesus was. And Christ looked at the man, realized what he needed and that was to know that his sins were forgiven. And Jesus said: 'Son be of good cheer,' "thy sins be forgiven thee." Well, there were some religious people in Christ's day, the Jews [...], and they reasoned in their hearts and they said: "Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God only?" Well, there you have your first meaning for what blasphemy is and this world power in Revelation 13, that rises in the old world of Europe, this power claims it can forgive sins. So then you go to John 10:32,33 where Christ again is charged with blasphemy and the reason why is, as the Jews tell him there, they say: "For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy." 'Because you, being a man, make yourself God.' So when a man, Greg, claims to be God – of course, Jesus Christ was God, as the Bible says, he was God in human flesh – but when a normal man like you and I claims to be the Holy Father or the Eternal God in human flesh – that's blasphemy.
10/22'09 John Daniel) to make every human being on this planet into a Roman Catholic
@20min, Kevin) The SS became kind of like the Black Order and Himmler was known as the Black Jesuit, actually. He actually learned a lot from the Jesuit Organization as how to organize the SS.
Greg) And a great body of research which is been hidden and still not done yet. I suggest, anybody out there that really wants to get to the bottom of what happened during WW II, this connection to the Vatican, just start researching a Jesuit priest by the name of Edmund Walsh, father of the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University. That will open your eyes up and I think, there is so much to be done yet, to find out really more about his connections to Stalin, his connections to Hitler, his connections to the U.S. funding the Bolshevik movement for a reason – there is so much there! And his role in Nuremberg: to white wash the Nuremberg Trials – he was actually the counsellor controlling the judges there for the U.S., appointed by our government! A great story and I think, it dismisses any kind of arguments that the Vatican is not a kingpin in this whole idea we're talking about regarding the Vatican-led N.W.O., and they exist today, hidden quite well in our own government, and people need to wake up to that fact.
You've never ever slighted people when you start talking about this and have told them straight on what you've researched. I really appreciate that, Kevin, because what you've done is a great service to the people. They really read The Pink Swastika. That book really explains a lot of things and when I read it, it gave me a basis to really understand this pedophilia homosexuality scourge that the Vatican is bringing on to America, to their own Luciferian religion. Couple of minutes before the break, just a comment on that!
Kevin) Well, you know, you're talking about the corporation, I mean, basically, there is a drive right now to create a corporate structure, to bring disenfranchised Anglicans who disagree with the ordination of women and homosexuals within the Anglican Church into some sort of communion with Rome. So there is an attempt by Rome to consolidate various sectors of the Christian world into a greater body, if you will. And, of course, Rome believes that that most of the denominations or all of the denominations within the Christian church are actually wayward children, that they will return to mother church, if you will.
And basically, Rome is the master of corporate fiction. They are the master of corporation when it comes to pretence, when it comes to creating frozen souls, or straw men, or legal entities that serve only themselves and have no life of their own. You know, the Vatican is basically a self-serving entity – it's not there for the people. And basically, when you talk about the mission, the meaning, the purpose of the Jewish people throughout history, the whole Messianic concept in Jewish thought: it's the liberation from emotional and spiritual bondage, the freedom from physical slavery. Those are intrinsic to the whole Exodus experience, the meaning of the Jewish people in history – that's the message that they bring forward to mankind [...] And, of course, that's an anathema to the Roman concept of creating corporate fictions, of working on the basis of pretence, of working on the basis of fictional entities that basically serve privilege and power, unearned privilege and power, and that basically the vast majority of people are subserving into that.
@45min, Kevin) Basically, what a corporate entity does: it reduces human beings into cattle. Because the human being no longer is a freeman with a claim upon the fruits of his labor. He has no superior and prior claim once he entered into a legal contraction or agreement with the corporate fiction. So that's the same thing that happens in government. For the purpose of taxation, your income or your wages are valued as zero. And only corporate fictions have income – I think, I explained that once before too – only a corporation, in American history, has income and profits. A human being has compensations for his labor and his tools, but he doesn't have income. That's why they call it "Income Tax Returns" because they want you to think you have income, but you don't. You have wages, you have compensations for your labor and for the use of your tools and so forth, but human beings don't ... Only corporate entities have incomes. As a human being you are not a corporate entity. As a man you are not a corporate entity. But: you can end up through ignorance and ignorance is no excuse for, you know, when it comes to law – or to legal fiction, not law itself, – you have to be fully informed when you enter into a contract from a lawful or () perspective. When it comes to legal fiction, everything is committed – your ignorance is no excuse.
Finders, keepers, loosers, weepers – all these little sort of hair-brain things that we grew up with, you know, that lead us into an environment of mutual predation rather than mutual affirmation. What we need to do is build a mutual affirmative economy rather than an economy based on mutual predation. And that's what legal fiction does, what the corporate system does: it initiates an economy of mutual predation, where people are benefitting, are living of the backs of other human beings who had misfortunes, who have lost their whatever it is. That's what the corporate system does. The corporate systems serves itself and that's, what I would say, that the Beast of Revelations is. You () (Rev. 13:16-17) will be able to buy yourself without the mark of the beast and without the number of the beast in his hand or his forehead. Forehead meaning thoughts and hand meaning deeds. When people wrote in biblical terms: very metaphoric. So again, the mark in the hand represents what you dedicate your deeds to, and the thoughts, where your mind is, where your thinking is focussed, where your treasure is, where you're dedicating your thoughts to. So basically, what the corporate collective is going to attempt to do is to has to commandeer everybody's thoughts and everybody's deeds into the service of the corporate fiction. And that's what Rome does, that's what the corporate fiction does, and that's what the whole emergent global corporate collective is all about.
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The shill and the demon
A former Wall Street insider and mega-financier recently said: the Vatican and Jesuit Order, working through certain players in the European Union (EU), have been waging war on the US stock market.
In an interview given to John Rappoport, financier Richard Bell (former SSQ CEO), privy to the Vatican's hidden manipulation of the U.S. economy through its "shills" working in finance and government, said the Jesuits and Vatican are the real "rulers of evil" as portrayed in Tupper Saucy's book under the same name.
Besides waging war on the U.S. economy, Bell said the Vatican and Jesuit Order's plan for world domination encompasses every aspect of human life and touches every corner of the globe."The shill is the magnet, if you will," said Bell a former stocks manipulator himself, "that sucks in the customers, the adherents, the loyal ones, the people of hope. It's the oldest trick in the book. And the people who play this trick on a grand scale are very, very clever. They want total domination, but they carve out a circuitous route, because that is the way to arrive. They set up a front which is the shill, and the shill looks very, very good. I don't mean to offend anyone by this, but for the Vatican, Jesus is a shill, the ultimate shill. Of course, their version of him is so far from the older concept it isn't even funny."
Here is Rappoport's interview with Bell:
Q: So, foreign investors are accelerating their withdrawal of money from the US.
A: A significant amount is being shifted to Europe.
Q: So is this current stock market debacle an OP run by the European Union (EU)?
A: That is true, but too simplistic. Dr. Paisley points out that the EU has been a step operation.
Q: Meaning?
A: First came the Common Market. Then we had the European Community. Now we have the Europe Union. At each step, people were told: "this is a good and limited concept." That was all a joke. It was always about creating one giant Euro-super-state, under the control of a few people.
Q: And so?
A: So, the Vatican has been everywhere during this step-operation, urging the parties forward, promoting the idea of unity. Which is always a winner. People like that concept. Paisley points out that unity is used as a soft hammer to make people forget who is doing the wrong thing and who is doing the right thing. Unity as a tool of propaganda means: no one is really bad. Make alliances with everyone. Melt into one. That is a disastrous political policy.
Q: And the Vatican is pushing the mission of the EU because?
A: Because making friends and influencing people and playing nice and urging unity is the current strategy of the Vatican, in these times. It is using that soft approach to create bigger political structures, over which it can exercise control. People forget that a dedicated Roman Catholic, if he is at the head of a large organization, can easily function as a front for the Vatican. If you have ten men like this, all of them powerful, all of them who have been helped by the Church into their positions of power, then you are looking at a formidable controlling force – which owes its allegiance to the Vatican.
Q: Name such a man.
A: Jacques Delors, who was president, at one point, of the European Commission. He met with Dr. Carey, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and they spoke of this "shared spirituality" that was needed. But that term, for the Vatican, is code for "the one and only church". Its church.
People shrink away from realizing that the Vatican has always considered itself the rightful ruler of Earth. I can't be any plainer than that. And all this footsy-playing with other religions and churches is just drivel, behind which lies the real agenda. Paisley, in his article, quotes a letter from the Pope John Paul II to the Archbishop of Prague: "We cannot simply conceive of Europe as a market of economic exchanges or a place for the circulation of ideas but, above all, it must be a genuine community of nations, which want to unite their future and live like brothers, respecting the cultures and spiritual traditions."
You know this is a fraud, because if there is one thing the Roman Church, behind the scenes, does not respect, it is the "various spiritual traditions". That's the soft soap. That's the New Agey stuff, the warm fuzzy. That's the front behind which the Vatican licks its chops, as it contemplates an EU which is fully organized and ready for further takeover from above. Above, being the Vatican itself.
This is no joke. This is almost two thousand years of plotting and conniving and working toward the goal of rule. But people reject the idea because they think that the Vatican is weak and lost and can never command billions of people to walk into a Church and fall on their knees. But you see, the Vatican, above all, has patience. The long-term goal has thousands and thousands of steps. I know this from numerous contacts over the years. Near the end of my career on Wall Street, I used to tell my friends – changing a quote I had once read – "the Jews who are not Jews run Wall Street at the pleasure of the British financiers who have an illusory idea about the primacy of England, and they in turn serve at the pleasure of the Vatican, which remains in the shadows." It's more or less a straight line, and the top of the line gives you the group which appears to be the weakest.
Appears. That's the operative word. If you read Tupper Saussy's fine book, Rulers of Evil, you will discover that the first translation of Sun-tzu's classic treatise, Art of War, into a Western language was made in 1772, in French. By Joseph-Marie Amiot, an astronomer in the court of the Emperor of China. Amiot was a Jesuit priest. The Jesuits know all about appearing weak into order to win, and they are perhaps the world's greatest appliers of Sun-tzu. And they are in it for the long haul.
Q: Then what function, in this scheme, does the EU play?
A: The shill.
Q: Explain.
A: The shill parks himself near the con man and makes it seem like the game can be won easily. The shill is the man who makes it look easy. I stretch the meaning of the term a little. But a shill is a bright penny that attracts attention. The EU represents unity. Unity is the bright penny that exclaims, "look, we can do it, we can all live in harmony. All we need to do is sit down and talk long enough, and all our divisions and conflicts will be solved." The shill draws the crowds. The shill makes the crowd think there is something very good here. The shill is the magnet, if you will, that sucks in the customers, the adherents, the loyal ones, the people of hope. It's the oldest trick in the book. And the people who play this trick on a grand scale are very, very clever. They want total domination, but they carve out a circuitous route, because that is the way to arrive. They set up a front which is the shill, and the shill looks very, very good. I don't mean to offend anyone by this, but for the Vatican, Jesus is a shill, the ultimate shill. Of course, their version of him is so far from the older concept it isn't even funny. But I digress.
Q: So you're saying that the Vatican looks for a group that can appear to be very, let's say, humanitarian, and it uses that to attract followers.
A: Of course. What do you think they spend their time doing? But in their secret "catechism", creating groups which appear to do good works is really the creation of shills. That's half of what the Vatican does.
Q: People at large would appear to be quite hypnotized not to believe this.
A: That's why I don't like to talk about it too often. It's frustrating. People look at me like I've stepped on their precious cat.
Q: Okay. Let's take this a step further. How about this? "The Vatican, working through certain players in the EU, have been making war on the US stock market."
A: Now you're clicking.
Q: And the motive is?
A: To weaken anything powerful that is not completely within the circle of power of the Vatican.
Q: Even if such weakening brings about chaos.
A: Especially if it brings about chaos. The very atmosphere in which the Vatican thrives. Chaos always equals new followers who are looking for a way to assuage their fear.
Q: You're saying this is just a current OP that follows along with a very old strategy.
A: A strategy in which the Vatican is the master.
Q: Now, in your years on Wall Street, did you run into people who knew all this, who saw the larger dimensions of the game?
A: I did. Mostly, they kept their mouths shut. Essentially, you're asking me: "What does a mid-level or low-level player in an ultimately corrupt game do when he discovers a few of the larger dimensions of that game?"
Q: Well, you could say that question applies, in a sense, to all of us, if you stretch the meaning a little.
A: Exactly. That is the question, isn't it? We may not be willing and conscious participants in the direction the game is going, but we are in the game, one way or another. I myself was a man who twisted the truth to maneuver money in certain ways. And finally, because I was very bull-headed, because I was very selfish – it took me quite awhile to wake up and get out of my own trap.
Q: Here is another Paisley quote.
"Deliberate engineering to create the coming about of the European Union provides an enormous opportunity to develop and extend the influence of the Church of Rome. Remember, it is Roman Catholic laymen who, from the beginning, were behind the formation of, and today continue to push the growth of, the European Union."
A: And look at something else. What is one of the most important economic wars for market share on the planet?
Q: The one between the US and what is now the EU.
A: Yes.
Q: Part of the reason the EU was formed was to give a Europe a chance to compete with the US in that area.
A: Yes. And, situated above all this, its sights set on weakening that "far too independent nation", the US, has been the Vatican. And one step in that weakening operation is the current trashing of U.S. corporations and the stock market. Which, covertly, was an OP launched by the EU, behind which firmly stands the Vatican.
Q: Layers of the onion.
A: Right.
Q: There are undoubtedly other forces at work in the weakening of the US trading markets.
A: There are. But the big unnoticed one – that's what I'm describing.
Q: Let's get back to the shill. Who stands behind him?
A: In a very mild situation, it's just a con man. But when you get really nasty, you're talking about somebody who operates like a demon.
Q: Do you mean that literally?
A: No. But other people would. I'm talking about somebody who owns somebody else.
Q: Take a very loyal Roman Catholic businessman of great wealth.
A: Yes. One who owes the Church and its agents all he has – becausee they engineered a lot of it for him. This is a kind of shill, who attracts people to his side. And behind him is the possession force – the people who own him, who, if they want to, can destroy everything he holds precious. And the businessman knows that. Somewhere inside him, he knows it and is afraid of it. The shill and the demon.
Q: A good title for a book.
A: Yes.
Q: Along this line, here is another quote cited by Paisley.
This is from Paul Henri Spaak, who has been called one of the founding fathers of the Euro Common Market, the forerunner to the EU:
"We [Europe] do not want another committee. We have too many already. What we want is a man of sufficient stature to hold the allegiance of all people [of Europe] and to lift us out of the economic morass in which we are sinking. Send us such a man and be he god or the devil we will receive him."
A: Yes. I read that quote with great interest. It gives off quite a bit of flavor, doesn't it?
Q: Yes.
A: All sorts of resonance. On one level, it almost seems to be a call for a Satan. On another level, for a fascist dictator waving a wand over Europe.
Q: The Vatican did support Hitler in certain ways and felt it could control him.
A: And that was so. If Hitler had conquered Europe, the Vatican, with its far-flung and very well-placed agents of distinction, would have controlled him sooner or later. Hitler, despite some of his statements, was quite enamored of the church.
Q: What other resonances do you get from Spaak's statement?
A: He is asking for someone like a pope, if a pope could move out of being a figurehead into real power day to day. I also get the sense that Spaak is willing to roll the dice against any odds because he feels, at that time, that the future of Europe is in a very desperate situation.
Q: So the formation of the EU was really a desperate move, in some ways.
A: At the level of business-people and financiers and bankers in Europe, it was. At the mid-level. And when you are in that frame of mind, you are willing to do anything to regain the kind of power you feel is rightfully yours. Your solution is always for a form of fascism, regardless of what face you put on it. You have to remember that.
Q: The EU was a fascist movement.
A: Covertly, yes. Absolutely. Whether you have one man standing on a balcony shouting to crowds, or a bunch of men quietly sitting in a room making all the really important decisions, it is fascism.
Q: Paisley also quotes from ...
A: You mean the Sunday Telegraph article?
Q: Yes.
A: I have it here.
Q: Read it.
A: July 21, 1991. The headline was: "Hatching a New Popish Plot."
It reads: "Karol Wojtyla [the Pope] is calmly preparing to assume the mantle which he solemnly believes to be his Divine Right – that of the new Holy Roman Emperor, reigning from the Urals to the Atlantic."
Q: What do you think of that?
A: If you insert the word "secret" in there, I think they've got it right. You see, we live in an age when humanitarianism is the ...
Q: Propaganda foundation stone.
A: Right.
Q: Why is that?
A: Because so many popular movements aimed at freedom and justice have filled the landscape. So the strategy of the controllers is to go with that. Just like in judo. You go with the motion of your opponent. You don't try to lash out at it. Part of the Art of War.
Q: You become the great peacemaker and mediator.
A: That's right.
Q: That's the ultimate trump card.
A: And the Vatican has a long history of being able to play that card.
Q: Does there come a time when, even if enough people see through the crap, it's too late?
A: No. But you do have to do certain things.
Q: Like what?
A: You have to expose the propaganda. That's number one. You have to do that. Then you have to build alternative structures. All sorts of them. And you have to forget about asking the bad guys for help. The whole idea of being nice to people who will do everything they can to control you never works. And if you understand the real motives and intentions of the enemy, you won't make that mistake.
Q: You won't assume that nicey-nice will turn them around.
A: Correct.
Q: The shill and the demon.
A: The front and the back.
Q: Some stories about demons have them feeding off and enjoying the emotions and pain and troubles and suffering of the people they lock on to.
A: I think that's a fairly good description of the Vatican down through history. If you add in, bilking the people of their money and possessions.
Q: Then it would seem a little curious to have the Vatican calling demonic stuff the evil that must be opposed and defeated.
A: I think that's characterized as a cover story. You'll find it in a number of areas. The enemy you prop up or invent to solidify your group is really you. It's pretty clever.
Q: Several writers have suggested the Vatican has fallen into being the epitome of devilishness, within its own walls.
A: I enjoy those stories. Because I think they miss the point that the Vatican has been about deception and control since its beginnings. After all, why bother to build a global organization to dominate a path that is supposed to lead to personal salvation? Why not just mark out the path and let people walk it on their own? If they want to? You can't force someone to take that path. If you do, you get a false result, a fake result.
Q: So you feel that secret societies are important in the telling of real human history. Since the Vatican is really such a society.
A: Yes, that's right. I'm a person who's come to conclude that people really do sit down and meet in rooms, that even if they share common goals – and they do – that's not enough to mount long-term projects and operations. It's just common sense. If you fight a land war, don't you have meetings? Don't you iron our strategy? Don't you hide that strategy? Don't you use many agents in the intelligence field? Don't those agents pretend to be something other than what they are? Imagine what would happen if the generals just assumed they all had shared objectives and proceeded on their own. It would be a moronic thing from the outset. The Jesuits are the intel arm of the church, in exactly the same way that the CIA works. They obtain information, and they also do covert OPS. I have met more than a few very, very bright Jesuits who are in the financial field. They certainly know what they're doing. They certainly keep their real objectives close to the vest.
Q: How low do you think the Dow is going to fall?
A: I think to make a serious estimate of that would be a mistake, if you are a person who is trying to acquire useful knowledge about markets. It's too up in the air. It's the wrong target of knowledge to shoot for. But just to guess, for the hell of it – we could see the Dow go down from 11,000, where it was, to 7500 or even 7000, or 6500. But that's just a foolish guess.
Q: If it did go that low, what would it mean?
A: (laughs) It would mean it's going to go back up. But just as a top in the market is a confusing time, the same is true of a bottom. All sorts of false starts that go nowhere. Up, then collapse. Up, then collapse again. And then, it finally begins to move up. But you see, all this is thinking about a fantasy, really. Because we don't know. We could make a hundred predictions and then say, after one of them turns out right – see, on August 24, I said 7000 and I was right. As a market drops lower, more of the big-time money people grab up what they want. And the lower it gets, the MORE big-time are those who grab up huge numbers of shares in their areas of interest. It's feeding time for the vultures and vampires and demons. They could be ready to take the market up by next week, or it might be two years from now. When the trinket that is dangling from your wrist is the stock market or the economy of a nation, you can pretty well figure that whim and Sadism are prominent motives. And also, what you can get away with, given your goals.
Q: But if the Vatican is a major force behind the current weaken-America OP, when is enough going to be enough?
A: Now you're talking a lot of different of different factors.
Q: Such as?
A: The most important ones are those around the question:
"How many of your own people, who are very loyal, but also not in on the true game – how long can they hold out and stay loyal and not just go nuts?"
You want to keep your structure in place. You want chaos, but you also want your vast network to be able to act. Those are tricky questions for controllers. All sorts of personal feelings can enter in.
Q: In the past, I've heard you talk, in relation to investing, about over-focus and under-focus. What do those terms mean?
A: Under-focus would be, I want to predict how far the market is going to fall, and then I'll decide what to buy or sell and when. That doesn't work.
Over-focus would be, at the close of trading on Monday, when everyone is getting in to buy up the stocks that have fallen heavily during the morning, I'm going to get in and pick the heaviest loser of the day and buy it, because it's going to go back up tomorrow. That's a complete crap-shoot, too.
But you know, these two principles work in all sorts of areas. In personal relationships, an over-focus would be, he scratches his face once in awhile and that bothers me. Under-focus would be, he's spending all our money but I'm sure he knows what he's doing. Neither extreme works.
Q: Do you think the world is doomed?
A: What do you mean by doomed?
Q: All 6 billion of us are going to fall under a steel-trap tyranny and we won't be able to get out.
A: Well, we can always get out. But it has to start from the bottom. To try to change everything from the top is a waste of time. You have to know as much as you can about what's going on at the top to know what to do at the bottom.
Q: I thought you'd say that my question was asking you to do an under-focus.
A: Very tricky. No, I think the closer you get to an understanding of what's going on at the top, the better prepared you are to take action.
Q: It occurs to me that your analysis of shills and demons applies to the medical cartel.
A: It certainly does. You have your studies and your testimonials from celebrities and your poster kids for diseases and socialite fund-raisers for research – and they are all shills. Most of them are unknowing shills. The studies are fakes, by the way. But all the shills are fronting for the same system of medicine that kills so many people. The demons are certain people who really set the agenda, the research agenda for the drug companies. They know they are killing people and making money doing it.
Q: They take pleasure from death?
A: It's very politically incorrect to suggest that, but it's true.
Q: Many people would say, how can it be true?
A: You have to realize that there are people in this world who do, in fact, take pleasure from that. That's the way they are. You can offer all sorts of explanations for how they got that way, but most of that is just to let them off the hook. They don't deserve that reward. They are evil, and they want to be evil. On a much smaller scale, look at the corrupt broker who enjoys hyping stocks to customers when he knows that he has no idea whether the stock is going to go up or down. He enjoys the weird power in that. He likes it. He likes stealing money and lying and getting away with it. The sooner we come to grips with this, the sooner we'll be able to get our nations back on the right course. Do you feel how much opposition there is to saying that so-and-so criminal just wanted to commit his crimes? We retreat from that, we try to make it all so complex and nice and we want to restore "harmony" by explaining away the whole thing. But: These people do exist. They wear very expensive suits, some of them, and they get their feeling of life from destruction. It's a kick for them.
Q: Getting back to the Vatican ...
A: Yes. Getting back to that, part of the big psychological OP of the second half of the 1900s has been the idea that everyone is good and should be approached that way. This is one of the front ideas of the Roman Church, in its latest fake incarnation of "share and care". It's just a ruse, but it certainly screws up whole civilizations.
Q: I think one reason people love soap operas so much is because they give us a smattering of characters who are evil and like being evil. It's right out there.
A: I'm sure that's true.
Q: We've just seen the $60 billion merger of two drug companies, Pfizer and Pharmacia. This makes Pfizer, which was already the largest drug house in the US, even bigger.
A: There are many reasons for these mergers, but looking at it from the top of the basic control agenda, it's all about shrinking down the number of people who have any say in what happens to us. In empire building, the people who really sit behind the scenes want larger and larger structures to emerge, because, if they can control those, they can control the whole show. If you have four million important power groups on the planet, then controlling the planet is going to be hard. But if you can shrink that number of groups down to a hundred, you can move in and work on the leaders of those hundred groups – the people who aren't already in your pocket – and you can begin to move them into your orbit. This is a basic fact that many people seem to understand, but they forget it or ignore the mechanics of how it works, and they move on. They shouldn't move on. That's it.
Q: As we talk here, I get the feeling that you have some experience with Vatican recruiting methods – undertaken, of course, through many lower-level cut-outs.
A: You're right. I do. It's in the area of making lay-Catholics into agents. I have known several people who were approached. The basic routine went like this. A Catholic businessman in a large city is contacted by the local chapter of one of those Catholic groups. There are scores of them. They have different names. They all seem benign or charitable or merely honorary.
Q: So this businessman goes to a meeting.
A: Sure. A lunch, a meeting. He ends up joining the group. He's already a successful man. Very energetic and ambitious. Wants to get ahead. So, after a year or so, an opportunity is placed in his path. One of his new friends in the group introduces him to a loan officer at a bank, and before you know it, he gets cash to expand his business. Things are starting to cook. This is a fairly slow process, and at every step the businessman is vetted. Loosely, because nothing has really happened yet.
But after another year or two, he acquires a partner in a new venture. The partner is also a member of this lay-Catholic club. The new venture prospers. The businessman meets the local bishop. He is nominated for some kind of layman of the year award. He doesn't win, but his profile is raised. After years of not going to church, he now goes. He even receives confession once a month.
After three or four years, he is introduced to a "financial expert" who is also from the same local group. The expert is really a Jesuit, but very few people know that. The Jesuit becomes his friend. He takes him on a trip to Rome, and they have an audience with a cardinal. Brief.
On and on it goes. The businessman is vetted every step of the way. He buys into a construction company. He is now becoming rich. He doesn't think much about it, but his new lifestyle is really dependent on his acquired Catholic friends. And all they have done for him. He of course would never want to give up the new lifestyle.
And now, on a business trip, he meets a woman in a bar.
She is quite pretty and friendly. They sleep together. Every time he goes to that city on business, he meets her. Unknown to him, their meetings are recorded on videotape. The Jesuit friend, one day, manages to bring up the subject of this woman. Because the Jesuit friend knows her. He tells the businessman that she is a prostitute, and even though she may not have charged him any money, well – and so the businessman goes to confession and tells the story to his priest. And so on and so forth.
And ten years later this man is really all the way in the pocket of his Jesuit friend.
And in the case I'm describing, we eventually get to political office. Running for office. And winning. And down the road, with a lot of money in the bank, and many political favors later, this businessman is offered a post in a federal agency. Has to do with foreign trade. He takes the job, on the strong recommendation of his Jesuit friend. And finally, after several more turns of the wheel which I won't describe, this businessman becomes an ambassador. And is completely beholden.
He takes orders, although he may not think of it that way. And he is an agent.
He passes along information to his friend. Lots of information. And he becomes trusted. And now he is told of a larger program. It involves making the church more prominent in the lives of many people. The expansion of the influence of the church, because that's really what it's all about, isn't it?
And this businessman joins another Catholic group, and is made a knight.
The businessman is never considered to be an insider, because he has certain scruples. So he is used as he can be used. And one day, for three minutes, he meets the Pope, as part of a group. It is the culmination of his adult life. He has passed along a great deal of information to his Jesuit friend, for years.
Q: What kind of information?
A: From diplomatic cables, for example. Some of these cables contained sensitive information. The church has been interested in various delicate negotiations between the US and a foreign nation.
Q: So you're saying, multiply this by a factor of a few thousand such agents ...
A: Many more than that.
Q: Okay ...
A: And you get a tremendous flow of information coming into Vatican intelligence. And this is just information I'm talking about. There are also favors of all kinds. You know, if you read the first few pages of Saussy's book, Rulers of Evil, you'll see a list of Roman Catholics in government who have had key positions vis-à-vis US foreign policy. Positions like CIA Director, National Security Advisor, Secretary of State, Ambassador-at-Large.
And there is also a list of senators who run [or ran] the various sub-committees within the Senate Foreign Relations Committee – all Roman Catholics.
Biden – Subcommittee on European Affairs.
Sarbanes – International Economic Policy.
Moynihan – Near Eastern and South Asian Affairs.
Kerry – Terrorism, Narcotics, and International Communications.
Dodd – Western Hemisphere and Peace Corps Affairs.
Q: Yes. I've seen the list. And that is just the beginning.
Saussy goes on to name "virtually every aspect of secular life in America", as he puts it, which is run, as a government chairmanship of a committee, by a Roman Catholic Congressional representative. It’s staggering. Here are just a few of those areas: "insurance, housing, community development, federal loan guarantees, economic stabilization measures [...] gold and precious metals transactions, agriculture [...] flood control, minority enterprise [...] vaccines, drug labelling and packaging, drug and alcohol abuse [...] energy [...] bank regulation."
A: And people in America still tend to think of Jack Kennedy as the only Catholic who ever really had huge secular political power in the US. Which, when you think about it, is a very under-mentioned piece of fall-out from the JFK assassination. Makes an excellent cover story, doesn't it?
"No more major presence of Roman Catholic power in the secular US government. Jack is dead."
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